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I was actually just wondering if you guys had any idea sketchy or solid of what aircraft you were going to put into this mod. I saw you were looking for realism and just figured Id ask what you would add. Can't wait to see your mod though the armor is looking awsome hope the planes and infantry follow suit.

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The aircraft i would like to see in the mod:

Allies(carrier based):
-corsair(fighter)
-dauntless(bomber+torpedo)
-consolidated catalina(scout)

Allies(non carrier based):
-P-51mustang/spitfire(fighter)
-p-38 lightning/mosquito(bomber/fighter)
-B-26 marauder/B-25 mitchell(medium bomber)

Allies(call in bomber):
-B-17 flighing fortress



Germans(carrier based):
-did they even have carriers?

Germans(non carrier based):
-messerschmitt Bf109/Focke-wulf fw 190(fighter)
-Me 262(fighter/jet)
-stuka(bomber)
-junkers 88(torpedo)

Germans(call in bomber):
-junkers 88

Japanese:
-I have no idea! :)

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catalina was a sea plane, land on water, so it wouldnt be carrier base, and it wasnt just a scott, it also attacked boats with dive bomb runs....

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Just a neutral suggestion if your going to make it allies and not USA and your including the experimental German planes you should look intot he RAF vampire. Just a suggestion. Can't wait to see the land war portion this mod will definently rule you guys are great.

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how about the british meteor, the real first jet fighter. the me262 was the first combat ready jet fighter but the meteor was in trials first.

oh, and sverkuijlen, the ju88 wasn't equipped with torpedoes

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The Vampire never saw WW2 combat, about 300 of the me262 did, and the model could easily have played a bigger role if the 1400 fighters that were produced hadn't been ordered to be converted to a bomber.

You could say: "But the Maus never saw combat either!" True, but then again I'm not saying it should be in there.

As for the Gloster Meteor, it played a more significant role than the Vampire but still nowhere near the way the me262 did. Only 20 fighters had entered service in June 1944. The only function left for it to serve in WW2 would become the interception of V1's, it never never encountered enemy fighters before the war was over.

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[quote name='Joker' date='Apr 21 2003, 06:19 PM']how about the british meteor, the real first jet fighter.[/quote]
correction...
The heinkel 178 was the first jet plane. :lol:

for more infoo concerning the development of jet engines :
[url="http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Evolution_of_Technology/jet_engines/Tech24.htm"]http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Ev...ines/Tech24.htm[/url]

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allies??? why don't you just call it amerca

don't give me this crap about amercans stuff was better...

if its got the sticker made in usa ... it doesn't make it better

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[quote name='mrpoo' date='Apr 22 2003, 01:02 PM']allies??? why don't you just call it amerca[/quote]
Because they cooperated with the British to defeat the axis... duh

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[quote name='flyby' date='Apr 22 2003, 10:28 AM']correction...
The heinkel 178 was the first jet plane. :rolleyes:

for more infoo concerning the development of jet engines :
[url="http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Evolution_of_Technology/jet_engines/Tech24.htm"]http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Ev...ines/Tech24.htm[/url][/quote]
i said jet fighter, not jet plane. there is a difference. from what i read on that page the heinkel didn't have weapons.

:o omg, mr. poo came back. but how :lol:

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how do you know i'm really mrpoo and not some cheap rip off fake...... like most of the disney chararaters

arrr it doesn't matter you got the wrong end of the stick.. arg who cares

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Nakajima B6N2 Tenzan


Allied Codename: Jill


Type: Three Seat Carried based Torpedo Bomber


Design: Nakajima Hikoki KK with Kenichi Matsamura as led Technical Director


Manufacturer: Nakajima Hikoki KK


Powerplant: (B6N1) One 1,870 hp (1395 kW) Nakajima NK7A Mamoru 11 14-cylinder radial engine. (B6N2) One 1,850 hp (1380 kW) Mitsubishi MK4T Kasei 25 14-cylinder radial engine. (B6N3) One 1,850 hp (1380 kW) Mitsubishi MK4T-C Kasei 25C 14-cylinder radial engine.


Performance: Maximum speed 298 mph (480 km/h); service ceiling 29,660 ft (9040 m); initial climb rate 1,885 ft (575 m) per minute.


Range: Normal 1,084 miles (1745 km); Maximum (overload) 1,892 miles (3045 km) on internal fuel.


Weight: Empty 6,635 lbs (3010 kg) with a maximum take-off weight of 12,456 lbs (5650 kg).


Dimensions: Span 48 ft 10 1/2 in (14.90 m); length 35 ft 8 in (10.87 m); height 12 ft 5 1/2 in (3.80 m); wing area 400.42 sq ft (37.20 sq m).


Armament: One 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Type 98 machine gun manually aimed from rear cockpit and one manually aimed by middle crew member from rear ventral position and one fixed 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Type 98 machine gun in left wing (often absent from the B6N1). A 1,764 lbs (800 kg) 18 inch torpedo carried offset to the right of centerline, or six 220 lbs (100 kg) bombs carried under the fuselage.


Variants: B6N1 (Mamoru engined), B6N2 (Kasei engined), B6N2a, B6N3 (prototypes for land based version).


Avionics: Some later models were equipped with ASV radar for night operations.


History: First flight March 1941; service delivery (B6N1) early 1943; service delivery (B6N2) December 1943.


Operators: Japan (Imperial Japanese Navy).



Background


In 1939 the Imperial Japanese Navy drew up its specification for a carrier-based torpedo-bomber to supersede the Nakajima B5N. The specifications issued by the navy called for very modern characteristics. A maximum speed of 288 mph (463 km/h), a cruising speed of 230 mph (370 km/h) and a range of 1,000 nautical miles (3335 km) without a bombload. To meet the requirement, Nakajima decided to use an airframe very similar to that of the earlier aircraft, differing primarily in its vertical tail surfaces. The navy had specified use of the Mitsubishi Kasei radial engine, but Nakajima decided to use instead its own 1,870 hp (1395 kW) Nakajima NK7A Mamoru 11 radial engine of similar output driving a four bladed Hamilton type propeller. The first of two prototypes was flown in spring 1941, but initial flight testing revealed a number of problems, including engine vibration and overheating, but the most serious was that of directional stability, requiring revised vertical tail surfaces. Final flight testing carried out aboard the aircraft carriers Ryuho and Zuikaku in the end of 1942, revealed further problems with the tuning of the engine and the need to reinforce the arrester hook and landing gear. It was not until February 1943 that the type entered production as the Navy Carrier Attack Bomber Tenzan Model 11, company designation Nakajima B6N1, incorporating a number of refinements as a result of extended flight testing. However, after only 135 production Tenzan (heavenly mountain) aircraft had been delivered a new crisis arose when Nakajima was ordered to terminate manufacture of the Mamoru engine, and use the more reliable 1,850 hp (1380 kW) Mitsubishi MK4T Kasei 25 engine, a step also taken to allow greater emphasis to be placed on production of the widely-used Nakajima Homare and Sakae engines.


The company was now compelled to use the engine which the navy had specified originally, the Mitsubishi Kasei, but fortunately the adaptation of the B6N airframe to accept this powerplant presented no major difficulties. The resulting aircraft, which was also the major production version, had the designation B6N2 and differed only from the B6N1 by the installation of the Mitsubishi Kasei 25 engine. The B6N2a variant had the rear-firing 7.7 mm (0.303 in) machine-gun replaced by one of 13 mm (0.51 in) calibre. When production ended, Nakajima had built a total of 1,268 B6Ns of all versions, this number including two modified B6N2 airframes which had served as prototypes for a proposed land-based B6N3 Model 13. The powerplant had been the improved 1,850 hp (1380 kW) Mitsubishi MK4T-C 25C version of the Kasei engine and the strengthened landing gear had larger wheels for operation from unprepared runways, but production did not start before the war ended. Allocated the Allied codename 'Jill', the B6Ns saw intensive use during the last two years of the war for conventional carrier operations and, in the latter stages, in kamikaze roles.


[img]http://www.kotfsc.com/wwiiaircraft/graphics/b6n-main.jpg[/img]

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Mitsubishi J2M3 Raiden

Allied Codename: Jack


Type: Single Seat Fighter Interceptor


Powerplant: One 1,820 hp (1357 kw) Mitsubishi MK4R-A Kasei 23a 14-cylinder radial pistion engine.


Performance: Maximum speed 371 mph (597 km/h) at 19,360 ft (5900 m); cruising speed 219 mph (352 km/h) at 9,840 ft (3000 m); service ceiling 38,385 ft (11770 m).


Range: 655 miles (1055 km) on internal fuel stores.


Weight: Empty 5,423 lbs (2460 kg) with a maximum take-off weight of 8,695 lbs (3945 kg).


Dimensions: Span 35 ft 5 1/4 in (10.80 m); length 32 ft 7 3/4 in (9.95 m); height 12 ft 11 1/2 in (3.95 m); wing area 215.82 sq ft (20.05 sq m).


Armament: Four wing mounted 20 mm cannon (comprising two Type 99 Model 1 and two Type 99 Model 2), plus two 132 lbs (60 kg) bombs or two 44 Imperial gallon (200 litre) drop tanks on external racks.


Variants: J2M1 (prototype), J2M2 (Navy Interceptor Fighter Raiden Model II), J2M3, J2M3a, J2M4 Model 34 (prototype), J2M5 (prototype designation), J2M5a, J2M6 (single experimental aircraft), J2M6a/J2M7/J2M7a (were proposed but never built).


Operators: Japanese Navy.



[img]http://www.kotfsc.com/wwiiaircraft/graphics/raiden-main.jpg[/img]

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Mitsubishi A6M6c Reisen Zero Fighter


Allied Codename: Zero or Zeke


Type: Single Seat Fighter Interceptor & Fighter Bomber


Powerplant: One 1,130 hp (843 kw) Nakajima Sakae 31 14-cylinder radial piston engine.


Performance: Maximum speed 346 mph (557 km/h) at 19,685 ft (6000 m); cruising speed 204 mph (323 km); service ceiling 35,105 ft (10700 m).


Range: 1,118 miles (1800 km) on internal fuel stores.


Weight: Empty 4,175 lbs (1894 kg) with a maximum take-off weight of 6,504 lbs (2950 kg).


Dimensions: Span 36 ft 1 in (11.00 m); length 29 ft 9 in (9.07 m); height 11 ft 5 3/4 in (3.50 m); wing area 229.28 sq ft (21.30 sq m).


Armament: Three 13.2 mm (0.52 in) machine guns (one in the upper fuselage decking and two wing mounted) and two wing mounted 20 mm Type 99 cannon, plus underwing launch rails for eight 22 lbs (10 kg) or two 132 lbs (60 kg) air to air rockets.


Variants: A6M1, A6M2, A6M3, A6M4 (prototype), A6M5, A6M5a, A6M5b, A6M5c, A6M5d-S (night fighter), A6M5-K (two seat trainer), A6M6, A6M7, A6M8a, A6M8b, A6M8c (Two models were produced but the war ended before production could commence).


Operators: Japanese Navy, China (a small number of captured aircraft).




[url="http://www.kotfsc.com/wwiiaircraft/graphics/zero-plate1.jpg"]http://www.kotfsc.com/wwiiaircraft/graphic...zero-plate1.jpg[/url]

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Kawanishi N1K2-J

Allied Codename: (Kawanishi N1K2-J) George - (N1K1 Kyofu) - Rex


Type: Single Seat Land Based Fighter Interceptor


Powerplant: One 1,900 hp (1484 kw) Nakajima NK9H Homare 21 18-cylinder radial piston engine.


Performance: Maximum speed 370 mph (595 km/h) at 18,370 ft (5600 m); cruising speed 230 mph (370 km/h) at 9,845 ft (3000 m); service ceiling 35,300 ft (10760 m).


Range: 1,451 miles (2335 km) with a single drop tank.


Weight: Empty 5,858 lbs (2657 kg) with a maximum take-off weight of 10,714 lbs (4860 kg).


Dimensions: Span 39 ft 4 1/2 in (12.00 m); length 30 ft 8 in (9.35 m); height 13 ft 0 in (3.96 m); wing area 252.96 sq ft (23.50 sq m).


Armament: Four wing mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model 2 cannon, plus two 551 lbs (250 kg) bombs on underwing racks.


Variants: N1K1 Koyfu (naval floatplane), N1K1-J (land based prototype), N1K1-Ja (revised armament), N1K1-Jb (modified wing with the intent to carry cannon and rockets), N1K1-Jc (night fighter), N1K2-J (Navy Interceptor Fighter Shiden KAI), N1K2-K (two seat trainer), N1K3-J (two prototypes), N1K4-J (two prototypes), N1K4-A (carrier based), N1K5-J (single prototype destroyed while under production).


Operators: Japanese Navy.




[img]http://www.kotfsc.com/wwiiaircraft/graphics/n1k1-plate1.jpg[/img]

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Navy Type 99 Carrier Bomber Model 11 - Aichi D3A1

Allied Codename: Val


Type: Two Seat Carrier or Land Based Dive Bomber


Design: Aichi Tokei Denki KK Design Team


Manufacturer: Aichi Tokei Denki KK (D3A2 - 815 aircraft) & Showa Hikoki Kogyo KK (D3A2 - 201 aircraft)


Powerplant: (D3A1) One 1,070 hp (798 kW) Mitsubishi Kinsei 44 14-cylinder radial engine. (D3A2) One 1,300 hp (969 kW) Mitsubishi Kinsei 54 radial engine.


Performance: (D3A1) Maximum speed 242 mph (389 km/h) at 9,845 ft (3000 m); cruising speed 183 mph (295 km/h) at 9,845 ft (3000 m); service ceiling 30,510 ft (9300 m). (D3A2) Maximum speed 267 mph (430 km/h) at 20,340 ft (6200 m); service ceiling 34,450 ft (10500 m).


Range: 913 miles (1470 km) on internal fuel with a single 551 lbs (250 kg) bomb.


Weight: Empty 5,309 lbs (2408 kg) with a maximum take-off weight of 8,047 lbs (3650 kg).


Dimensions: Span 47 ft 1 1/2 in (14.36 m); length 33 ft 5 1/4 in (10.19 m); height 12 ft 7 1/2 in (3.85 m); wing area 375.67 sq ft (34.90 sq m).


Armament: Two fixed forward firing 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Type 97 machine guns, one 7.7 mm (0.303 in) Type 92 machine gun on a trainable mount in rear cockpit plus one 551 lbs (250 kg) centerline bomb and two 132 lbs (60 kg) of bombs on under wing racks.


Variants: D3A1, D3A2 Model 12 (single prototype), D3A2 Model 12, D3A2-K (trainer conversion).


Avionics: None.


History: First flight August 1936; first flight (D3A2) June 1942; termination of production (D3A2) January 1944.


Operators: Japan (Imperial Japanese Navy).


[img]http://www.kotfsc.com/wwiiaircraft/graphics/d3a-main.jpg[/img]




i think thats all of them

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[quote name='mrpoo' date='Apr 23 2003, 04:45 AM']arg who cares[/quote]

ehm, good point :D

@ yamato: some damn nic elooking planes there. For the fighter I have to vote for the Zero, the Kawanishi N1K2-J may have performed better but the Zero is just so well known that you just can't afford to not have it.

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Were they made by mitsubishi? The eraser/air conditioner/poster color/car/everything manufacturer?

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