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North Korea Performs Second Nuclear Test

#81 User is offline   Torlek 

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 06:52 AM

QUOTE (spyvspy @ Jun 11 2009, 9:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The 15k radius of collapsing all structures bothers me, its still not big enough to take out the suburban sprawl properly.

Why do you think both sides stockpiled thousands of nukes and would have 20+ warheads targeted on a city?
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:28 AM

Goose. while your dream was impressive, im sure foxbats didnt fly with blackjacks tongue.gif
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 09:53 PM

I was asleep, I take no responsibility for the historical accuracy of my subconcious.
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 03:07 AM

So back to the main topic.

North Korea to weaponize all plutonium

They are now blatantly going to throw everything they have into making nuclear weapons. The world has to stop this mad regime.

Enough of this sanctions crap, I say load up some F-22's with some GPS guided bombs and blast the shit out of North Korea's stupid nuclear facilities, then let the South Korean army kick the KPA's asses all the way to Pyongyang. North Korea has to be stopped before they start selling nukes to every idiot dictator and terrorist who is willing to pay some cash for one of the world's most destructive weapons.
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 05:15 AM

Countries like this definitly give a name to orientel countries.
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 05:31 PM

Alright, I see how the UN are worried about North Korea and being a independent country testing nuclear weapons and all. Government control over all aspects of their country but in my own personal opinion I don't find it too much to worry about to be honest. It's a very, very poor country, not much money, all their fuel and income is from China and they're not going to start sending them plans how to make missile guidance system to strike any country on the planet.

For now they're doing what the U.N says. For one they're not testing nuclear weapons above ground for one, American launched two in space remember, 100's in the Pacific and Atlantic, Hawaii Islands and at least two under water. To me North Korea are just testing out their capabilities of their technology, once they start testing above ground and launching them in the atmosphere, THEN we should start to worry and take charge in telling them to stop.
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 05:56 PM

Atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons has been banned for a long time. They're testing them underground because that's where everybody has to do it now, not because they don't have the technology to test them in the air. They're military and economy is in such poor shape though, that a few air strikes on their nuke facilities might do some good, but it might cause them to fire their artillery on Seoul too...
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 09:57 PM

Yeah I know. Once they or if they start testing above ground the U.N should take their steps in stopping them but that they're doing what the regulations state they're not doing anything majorly wrong in my own opinion.
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 01:07 AM

Well they're in violation of several UN resolutions, so they've already broken the regulations. Not that they care.
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 02:18 AM

Yeah course and I respect that the U.N are taking steps in the nuclear weapons test rules and regulations. I'm just saying, even though the country isn't part of North, South America and Europe shouldn't stop them from testing their nuclear weapons in defence of their country. It's not like they have lot's of support so they're forced to take other actions. Granted that they've isolated themselves but since the North Korean and South Korean war, there's not much more they could've done in retrospect.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 03:19 AM

See, the problem, very short is that they've been in defiance of the almighty UN since the beginning. Yes the north is poor - that doesn't mean they cant have an effective nuke program. What do you think all that starving and resource diversion does anyways? The whole point of trying to stop them is so that they DONT get to a point of perfected nukes and the missles to deliver them. Waiting for them to get to that point out of some idea of fairness is national suicide. That and youre vastly underestimating their abilities.
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Posted 17 June 2009 - 11:11 AM

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 10:46 PM

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Wow, that puts a lot into perspective. I mean I knew Kim got his freak on (had orgies commonly in the palace according to witnesses), but srsly. I guess when the Dear Leader inspected the works, they were told to get a thrill up their leg.

In other news, Missile heading to Hawaii probably on July 4th
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Posted 18 June 2009 - 11:11 PM

About 30 minutes after North Korea hurls shells with chemical warheads towards Seoul, Pyongyang will turn into a glass parking lot.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:00 AM

How about this scenario: NK aims nukes at their own people and threatens to kill them if the West attacks?
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 02:52 AM

At least we know they'd be in range.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 08:41 AM

QUOTE (Count von Phoib @ Jun 18 2009, 4:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
About 30 minutes after North Korea hurls shells with chemical warheads towards Seoul, Pyongyang will turn into a glass parking lot.

With President Pantywaist in charge? You kidding? I have doubts he'd even initiate hostilities beyond the immediate DMZ (i.e. to Pyongyang) before trying to negotiate.

Case in point - I doubt they'll be stopping this ship

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 08:13 PM

The UN resolution doesn't give him the right to stop the ship. It may be directed to port, but there is nothing in the resolution that would permit force to be used.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 10:30 PM

No, but there is to inspect the ship. And based on both the litany of past resolutions and subsequent action, and just general perception, this goes unhindered.

More info about the ship

Analysis on the Resolution

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 11:43 PM

They can inspect it in port by the port authorities.
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12. Calls upon all Member States to inspect vessels, with the consent of the flag State, on the high seas, if they have information that provides reasonable grounds to believe that the cargo of such vessels contains items the supply, sale, transfer, or export of which is prohibited by paragraph 8 (a), 8 (cool.gif, or 8 © of resolution 1718 (2006) or by paragraph 9 or 10 of this resolution, for the purpose of ensuring strict implementation of those provisions;

13. Calls upon all States to cooperate with inspections pursuant to paragraphs 11 and 12, and, if the flag State does not consent to inspection on the high seas, decides that the flag State shall direct the vessel to proceed to an appropriate and convenient port for the required inspection by the local authorities pursuant to paragraph 11;

That's pretty much a paper tiger.
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