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Yeah at first I thought he said Pol Pot too XD.

 

He was pretty talented in his own way, thats for sure.

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you probably have.

 

I'm really turned off by these idol shows, give me pretty faces with fake fake studio enhanced voices, please.

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He's talented because he did it as an amateur for years.

 

Nobody can just wake up and sing flawlessly. It doesn't happen. This shouldn't be what the show's about, but people seem to think it is.

 

Talent =/= ability.

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Okay... issues... NK has been sabre rattling with missiles on and off for years now... what's the difference. They hate the U.S., not the president.

 

Besides, in some ways what can he do short of invasion. The UN has no real teeth anymore, and China doesn't want to hurt it's little tinfoil hat neighbor for fear of losing influence in the region, or getting zerg rushed with starving refugees.

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But the refugees are already flooding en masse and establishing Hatcheries...

 

And the UN never really had teeth. It only had teeth during the Korean War since the Soviet Union had walked out earlier. And the PRC didn't have a seat. Boutros Boutros-Ghali tried to basically establish the UN as something akin to the Global Defense Initiative, but for obvious reasons, states recoiled to his plan in horror.

 

Its kind of been my theory for a while that at least part of GDI was inspired by Mr Ghali's An Agenda For Peace.

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The situation in Korea is complex. There was never a true peace between the north and South, only a cease fire.

 

If by some miracle the current NK leadership is overthrown today then the North still faces massive problems: Hunger, economic depression, many of it's citizens in forced labor camps, no real trade available with the exception of weapons.

 

In such an event the North would need to take measure to gain support from it's own population which would mean walking a very fine line.

 

A unification would be near disastrous because of the massive differences in society, living standard and so on.

Such a unification would prove a far greater challenge than the German unification especially since SK is also feeling the effects of the economic crisis.

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This is so bizarre when you realize Lenin originally only actually got a foothold with communism because people were so tired of lavish ruling families in starving nations.

 

Eh, at least this explains the turmoil.

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Well in theory communism only works after there's been socialism. In most countries it has gone from totalitarism to socialism and it didn't work as well as it should've. It just happened to change the name and the face of the person giving you shit.

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Communism in the USSR died with Trotsky. If Trotsky had been successful against Stalin then who knows. Maybe the USSR could have had a socialism based on democracy.

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Communism in the USSR died with Trotsky. If Trotsky had been successful against Stalin then who knows. Maybe the USSR could have had a socialism based on democracy.

*groan

 

nevermind

 

 

 

The Russians now say communism sucked because it came from the west, and are proud to have survived it.

lol yes I actually have found that highly entertaining. It simultaneously allows them to sweep their history under the rug and still proclaim the West as evil.

 

Some apparently want to get back to old Imperial Russia business, namely reestablishing the Byzantine Empire...

 

I wouldn't mind the Byzantine Empire so much, so much that its Greek-led. Would shut the Turks up for a while.

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Thats another lol. Even though he was a Georgian, they've essentially appropriated him as one of the greatest Russians ever :rolleyes:

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Some apparently want to get back to old Imperial Russia business, namely reestablishing the Byzantine Empire...

 

I wouldn't mind the Byzantine Empire so much, so much that its Greek-led. Would shut the Turks up for a while.

Just so you know, Imperial Russia and the Byzantine Empire were two entirely separate entities and didn't share much in common beyond Orthodox Christianity and autocratic rulers. Russia never got anywhere near re-establishing the Byzantine empire, never took Constantinople, and only claimed to be the rightful heir to the earlier empire.

 

Byzantine Empire: Eastern Roman empire that survived until 1453, governed from Constantinople, based in Anatolia/Greece and extended control over the Mediterranean region.

Russian Empire: ~1547 (Tsardom) - 1721 (formally 'Empire') - 1917, governed from St. Petersburg/Moscow, based in Northern Europe and extended control over northern and central Asia.

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Thats another lol. Even though he was a Georgian, they've essentially appropriated him as one of the greatest Russians ever :rolleyes:

 

I think the more prominent bit is he murdered millions in a shroud of paranoia and lies, nearly caused his nation to lose the second world war and even was in league with Hitler for a while.

 

God, and they think he fought against corruption or something.

 

Goes well with my core philosophy; I'd rather side with people who are for inefficient government I can get behind than those who want to make it slim, more efficient device towards evil ends.

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Just so you know, Imperial Russia and the Byzantine Empire were two entirely separate entities and didn't share much in common beyond Orthodox Christianity and autocratic rulers. Russia never got anywhere near re-establishing the Byzantine empire, never took Constantinople, and only claimed to be the rightful heir to the earlier empire.

 

Byzantine Empire: Eastern Roman empire that survived until 1453, governed from Constantinople, based in Anatolia/Greece and extended control over the Mediterranean region.

Russian Empire: ~1547 (Tsardom) - 1721 (formally 'Empire') - 1917, governed from St. Petersburg/Moscow, based in Northern Europe and extended control over northern and central Asia.

 

Dave, that's my whole point. Russia's goal was always to kinda restart the Byzantine Empire. Not saying they got very far.

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Austria is also kind of an inheritor of Rome. It's weird how Rome refuses to die. Those guys continue to influence so much of our lives.

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Austria is also kind of an inheritor of Rome. It's weird how Rome refuses to die. Those guys continue to influence so much of our lives.

 

imo, Rome died and stays dead. Every European successor empire since then, has usually been some delusional mad man claiming to have an Empire, and doing a shitty job at it too. All of them just like The Dear Leader, Mr. Kim, mentioned above. Same with a lot of Roman Emperors. The Roman Republic was the best.

 

But true about the influence on our lives.

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