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Heros Of Ww2! Heros to some are assholes to others...

#1 User is offline   BIGJohnMP 

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Posted 17 July 2005 - 08:56 PM

OK, here's my idea...
First I would like to say that everyone may think its stupid and I may get flamed for it, but I'm posting it anyways.
Here goes...
Hero units! Generals and ZH has 'em, Blitz should have 'em too!
I got this idea partially from a mod I played that adds Hitler as a buildable unit for the GLA. He had the power of propaganda and would heal nearby units.
So in Blitz we could have Roosevelt or Churchill for the allies, Hitler for ze Germans, and Stalin for the soviets. They could all pretty much do what an officer already does now, but be a lot better at it and have other special abilities. Like maybe roosevelt could go really fast in his wheel chair, and Stalin could have a big AT gun, and Hitler could sway enemy troops with propaganda, and Churchill could, well, be English!
I think it would add some comedy relief to blitz, which in turn could attract more n00bs. I know the Hitler thing for ZH made me laugh (you guys should try and find that btw, its hilarious).
And no one can get pissy and yell at me that this is a super serious historically realistic mod, because a lot of the unit voice overs that are in place would argue otherwise!
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Posted 17 July 2005 - 10:05 PM

QUOTE(BIGJohnMP @ Jul 17 2005, 7:56 PM)
OK, here's my idea...
First I would like to say that everyone may think its stupid and I may get flamed for it, but I'm posting it anyways.
Here goes...
Hero units! Generals and ZH has 'em, Blitz should have 'em too!
I got this idea partially from a mod I played that adds Hitler as a buildable unit for the GLA. He had the power of propaganda and would heal nearby units.
So in Blitz we could have Roosevelt or Churchill for the allies, Hitler for ze Germans, and Stalin for the soviets. They could all pretty much do what an officer already does now, but be a lot better at it and have other special abilities. Like maybe roosevelt could go really fast in his wheel chair, and Stalin could have a big AT gun, and Hitler could sway enemy troops with propaganda, and Churchill could, well, be English!
I think it would add some comedy relief to blitz, which in turn could attract more n00bs. I know the Hitler thing for ZH made me laugh (you guys should try and find that btw, its hilarious).
And no one can get pissy and yell at me that this is a super serious historically realistic mod, because a lot of the unit voice overs that are in place would argue otherwise!

biggrin.gif

I remember the hiter guy it was funny with the dutch accent and stuff...

but it has been discused eons ago biggrin.gif
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Posted 17 July 2005 - 10:21 PM

There is one prob with heros, there are soo many named heros you cuold probably have an infantry tank , and aircraft hero, but think its left best without heros.
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Posted 17 July 2005 - 11:12 PM

I do not want hero units in Blitz, it's a bad idea.
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Posted 17 July 2005 - 11:26 PM

Big John It was talked about long long ago in a topic far far delited. I really don't think the nations leader should fight because that might be dangerous to lose him. I think it was said some of the actual tank, plane, and infantry heros of ww2 should be added. I really don't know the names of the heros but each side would have got a hero for a different area. I think it would have been a cool thing to see a german siting on the top of his tanks hatch yelling and giving moral.
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 04:03 AM

What was the name of the mod?

anyway, it would be neat to see hero units suck as:

Erwin Rommel
Rudstetd
Montgovery
ect.

i liek the idea of a guy on his tank yelling things out. would be neat.



like generals and field-marshals.

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 04:14 AM

I klnow my heros there are plenty to coose from for any of the kinds of units but i don't think the heros fit with blitz kind of games play maybe in single player but not in mp.

But a unit like said a general or something yelling out of a tank is cool, imagine patton yelling, FORWARD, or Make him die for his counrty.
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 04:40 AM

ite been brought up befroe and it was no hero units for now
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 05:54 AM

lol, Yamato, let me do the talking please when it comes to Blitz II decisions or lack therof.

In this case though, indeed, no hero units will be added.
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 05:58 AM

QUOTE(General Falcon @ Jul 17 2005, 7:14 PM)
I klnow my heros there are plenty to coose from for any of the kinds of units but i don't think the heros fit with blitz kind of games play maybe in single player but not in mp.

But a unit like said a general or something yelling out of a tank is cool, imagine patton yelling, FORWARD, or Make him die for his counrty.

Cant we have like, 1 out of every 10 tanks built have a guy that yess something out to his tanks? or somehow make a guy in a tank yelling to his men? i love that idea.
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 06:05 AM

maybe in Blitz III, not in Blitz II
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 08:19 AM

I knew it was probably suggested before and that it had been, and is now being, shot down.
However, I think adding actual names of field officers and generals would be cool. Maybe you could do something to where every officer built has a random name of an actual WW2 officer. And maybe those officers could have different things they are good at, even though that's taking it a little far and is probably not possible in the engine.
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 08:24 AM

If you can do it, be my guest and send me the files to make it happen tongue.gif
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 08:28 AM

You would probably have to link to an external ini file full of names for each side. I haven't explored the generals engine to much, but I have done scripting for Quake engine based games (including mohaa) and a teeny bit for RA2. Maybe I will take the time to figure it out...
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 10:58 AM

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So in Blitz we could have Roosevelt or Churchill for the allies, Hitler for ze Germans, and Stalin for the soviets.


I want Stalin to be buildable so I could implement Decree 227 on himself alone, again and again and again... domo.gif
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE(BIGJohnMP @ Jul 17 2005, 1:56 PM)
Like maybe roosevelt could go really fast in his wheel chair,

laugh.gif "Who's the cripple now, lol"

I remeber Ome's Hitler Mod. Very funny.
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 03:54 PM

Whats Decree 227?
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Posted 19 July 2005 - 05:56 AM

You could always Google it...
But I will explain...
Stalin's decree 227 was also called "not a step back". It stated that any Soviet soldier caught retreating was to be shot on site as a traitor to the motherland.
Anyway, I hear that commandos are in the works, so they should satisfy part of my need for a hero. I just hope the Blitz team uses the old "I got a present for ya!" and "Real tough guy!" voice overs, and not the gay Colonel Burton ones.
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Posted 19 July 2005 - 07:51 AM

Adolf should get a Mercedes to drive around in then tongue.gif

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE(Wrath231 @ Jul 19 2005, 1:51 PM)
Adolf should get a Mercedes to drive around in then tongue.gif

Nice! and then crushed by tanks.
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