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P-38 As First Fighter maybe its not a good idea

#21 User is offline   CorathSS 

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Posted 24 June 2004 - 04:10 AM

JU 88 was a medium bomber, and a damn good one...or an anti tank weapon...or it was used as a night fighter...hehe. The Stuka as a fighter is fun, get WW2 Online, I believe they have it, they should if I remember..its funny as all hell to see people try and fly it as a god damn Fighter.. ..specially when they hit dive brakes and try to dog fight in an outdated plane :(
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Posted 24 June 2004 - 11:35 AM

CorathSS, on Jun 23 2004, 9:02 PM, said:

BTW, I remember some one mentioning the whole 30mm bomber thing..it was Shrage Musik installation, used 20mms, aimed up and backwards...so not 30mm.. I knew that was bugging me for some reason.

Both 30mm and 20 mm were used in operational test configurations.
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Posted 24 June 2004 - 10:32 PM

I think that the British should get the Hurricane rather than the P-38 as starting fighter. Maybe in release 3?
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Posted 26 June 2004 - 02:54 AM

Maybe when you purchase the Me262, you could get a Heinkel 168 (or was it 162? I can't remember :D) Volksjager fighter too, to replace the Fw190? It was a small fighter, and was planned to be produced by the thousands every year, but never went through because of the late date it was started. If you use it, it should be around $1,000 to represent how easy it would have been to mass-produce it. It was only used a bit, but I beleive that you use units like that *coughMaus&M28cough*. The science would be renamed to "Jet Fighters", and maybe when you purchase the Go229, there could be an upgraded version of the carpet bomb available which uses Arado Blitzs instead of He 111s? The Arado was used, while the Go229 wasn't, so I think this would make sense. The Arado is slated for possible inclusion in R3, yes I know, but when you include it, maybe it could be used like that?

(and btw, I'm making this post from a hotel, and will probably not be around during these next ten days or so)
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Posted 26 June 2004 - 03:07 AM

thats make sense... but there are too many airplanes arent they? hard to choose
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Posted 26 June 2004 - 03:11 AM

Easy, the Volksjager would be if you need lots of good fighters, the Panzerknacker AT, Me262 is the advanced fighter, and the Go229 would be your ground support bomber. I'd like to have a cheap jet fighter, wouldn't you?
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Posted 26 June 2004 - 03:15 AM

hehe... surely, and "people's fighter" mainly made by wood wasnt it? i am waiting for R4M missiles fix for ME262... wonder how is it...
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Posted 26 June 2004 - 04:14 AM

Hehe- my mistake, it's the He 162, commonly know as the "Salamander" or "People's Fighter", as maskawaith said. The plan was to produce 4,000 a month and it could go 521 mph. The earlier versions had two 30 mm MK 108 cannons, and the later versions had two 20 mm MG 151/20 guns. It had been planned to be used by novice pilots (like Hitler Youth -shows how desparate they were for pilots), but it proved to have tricky handling.

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Posted 26 June 2004 - 04:21 AM

yeah really, easy to take off but noone really know how to land ;)
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Posted 26 June 2004 - 12:21 PM

They could have copied the japanese and stuffed the landing part ;)
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Posted 26 June 2004 - 02:55 PM

Maskawaih, I think it was the He163 (not in game) that was the Peoples Fighter.
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Posted 26 June 2004 - 03:50 PM

AETAaAS, on Jun 26 2004, 7:55 AM, said:

Maskawaih, I think it was the He163 (not in game) that was the Peoples Fighter.

blabla bla.. A He 163 never existed.. ;)

It's either a ME163 (rocket plane) or a He162 ("volksjäger")
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Posted 27 June 2004 - 07:42 AM

Sorry, typo. Yeah, the He162.
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Posted 06 July 2004 - 09:17 PM

I actually have a book on the HE-162 and proposed variants of it including some that have advanced wing configurations, my main complaint about blitz2's Lightning is that fact that it carries so little, I realise that if the aircraft were given realistic loadouts they would be over powering, but it still might be nice if they were a tad better, like for instance the P-47's rockets are not what you see used on most US aircraft, most rockets were either the "zunni" type or 5IN rockets which were mounted in racks of five typicaly one rack on each wing, they were also fairly straight flying rockets, the P-38 should also have rockets a typical loadout for a interdiction mission for a EOA Lightning would have been a lot heavier, the Lightning could carry up to 3,200lbs of ordinace of various types, a interesting idea would be to include the F-5 and recon spitfires to the game*for those who don't know the F-5 and F-6 are both recon variants of the P-38* as a generals abillity perhaps in association with a specific allied general???
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Posted 07 July 2004 - 09:26 AM

Wraith, should the P-38 recieve the rockets, it wouldnt be much behind the P-47.
And THAT would make the P-38 a real superweapon being so cheap and able to get it early game. :P
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Posted 26 July 2004 - 03:06 PM

The p-47 should be changed into a b-25.
and after upgrading give the p-38 rockets, just like in real
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Posted 26 July 2004 - 04:24 PM

....Why did you bump this? And a B-25 isn't a ground support plane, it's a dedicated bomber.... you shouldn't be able to control bombers anyway.
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Posted 27 July 2004 - 12:06 AM

flyby, on Jun 26 2004, 8:50 AM, said:

AETAaAS, on Jun 26 2004, 7:55 AM, said:

Maskawaih, I think it was the He163 (not in game) that was the Peoples Fighter.

blabla bla.. A He 163 never existed.. :D

It's either a ME163 (rocket plane) or a He162 ("volksjäger")

Why the hell was the He-162 called the Manhunter? Was it an anti-infantry plane?
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Posted 27 July 2004 - 12:25 AM

No, it means People's Fighter, because it was intended for very massive production (4,000 a month). The pilots were planned to be Hitler Youtrh, hence the "People" part, but it proved very tricky to fly so that part of the plan was scrapped.

Does anyone like the idea about the He 162?

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Posted 27 July 2004 - 01:01 AM

heavy bomber will not be buildable
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